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In 1993 American scholar Deborah Lipstadt published Denying the Holocaust, product of a research contract funded by an Israeli agency.

British writer David Irving claims that it libels him.



Mr D Irving,
Focal Point Publications,
81 Duke Street,

Date: 20 January, 1999
Reference: T/170/KA/DH
Direct tel: 01695 54598
Direct fax: 01695 54668


Dear Mr Irving,


In reply to your letter dated 12th January, 1999 I would like to make the following statement re Goebbels diaries.

A single glass microfiche plate was brought to the laboratory at Lathom on the 1st July, 1992 by a gentleman from the Sunday Times Office.

A small triangular shaped fragment of glass (approximately 10mm x 10mm x 15mm) was cut form one corner of the plate and retained for analysis. The plate was then returned to the gentleman and he left (to return to London). I estimate that he was with us at the laboratory for about twenty minutes.

The fragment of glass was analysed in a scanning electron microscope and the findings were set out in the report dated 1st July, 1992 (K Arnold/B W Shaw). A copy of that report is attached for identification purposes. To the best of my knowledge the results and conclusions detailed in the report are correct.

It was stated in the report of the 1st July, 1992 (K Arnold/B W Shaw) that a formal report would be prepared. This was not done, and the report dated 1st July 1992 (K Arnold/B W Shaw) was the only one written concerning the glass microfiche plate.



Pilkington Technology Management Limited
Group Research and Development

Pilkington Technical Centre Hall Lane Lathom Ormskirk Lancashire England MO 5UF
Telephone 01695 54553 Fax 01695 54506
Registered Office Kyntyre House 209 West George Street Glasgow G2 2LW Registered in Scotland company Number 38385


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I would like to add that, in accordance with our standard operating procedure concerning external work, Dr B W Shaw gave prior warning to his contact at the Sunday Times that it would be necessary to cut a small fragment of glass from the plate so that it could be analysed. Consent was given for this. I would also like to add that there was no sign of any damage to the printed information on the plate when the plate was returned to the gentleman from the Sunday Times.

Yours sincerely,

K Arnold

Copy to:




Mr I J McKillop (Group Legal Dept, Lathom)
Dr J Brettle (Materials Technology, Lathom)