Buchanan: Then you would say it is not
only Bush who is at fault, but
Clinton and Bush and Reagan,
all the way back?
Nader: The subservience of our
congressional and White House puppets to Israeli
military policy has been consistent. Until '91, any
dictator who was anti-Communist was our ally.
Buchanan: You used the term
"congressional puppets." Did John Kerry show
himself to be a congressional puppet when he voted
to give the president a blank check to go to
Nader: They're almost all puppets. There
are two sets: Congressional puppets and White House
puppets. When the chief puppeteer comes to
Washington, the puppets prance.
Buchanan: Why do both sets of puppets
support the Sharon/Likud policies in the Middle
East rather than the peace movement candidates and
leaders in Israel?
Nader: That is a good question, because
the peace movement is broad indeed. They just put
120,000 people in a square in Tel Aviv. They are
composed of former government ministers, existing
and former members of the Knesset, former generals,
former combat veterans, former heads of internal
security, people from all backgrounds. It is not
any fringe movement.
The answer to your question is that instead of
focusing on how to bring a peaceful settlement,
both parties concede their independent judgment to
the pro-Israeli lobbies in this country because
they perceive them as determining the margin in
some state elections and as
sources of funding. They don't appear to
agree with Tom Friedman, who wrote that
has Arafat under house arrest in Ramallah
and Bush under house arrest in the Oval Office."
Virtually no member of Congress can say that,
and so we come to this paradoxical conclusion that
there is far more freedom in Israel to discuss this
than there is in the United States, which is
providing billions of dollars in economic and