HERE is the continuation of my
private diary this eventful day:
". . . Bike out along the Gulf of
Mexico to Harpoon Harry's on the next island, for a
fish 'n' chip dinner. Back tyre goes down over last
100 yards. Heigh ho.
While I am out there New Zealand
TV phones to fix a telephone interview in an hour's
time. Have to borrow back $20 from Ginger, the
waitress. Taxi back to the cottage with the
lifeless bike strapped to its trunk.
NZ-TV phones half an hour later,
an abrasive but rather shocked male interviewer.
Says Acting Prime Minister Mike Cullen has
stated he listened to my radio interview, and was
shocked by the implicit suggestion that there is a
"global Jewish conspiracy to control the
Rather a naïve remark. I say
I did not say there was, but there is certainly a
vendetta against me, and the documents I
have obtained from the legal
action against Deborah Lipstadt show it.
As for Dr Cullen's remarks, I
understand his gibbering fear: he knows which side
his party's bread is buttered on, just as John
Howard did in Australia.
Fortunately I do not have that
problem: nobody can rap on my window and warn me of
the financial implications of taking a certain
line. My history books will be the ones that
survive to the 22nd Century.
The interviewer asks how much of
the Holocaust I "deny." I sigh. I say that parts
are true, and parts are legend. The shootings on
the eastern front did happen, and I have spoken
with witnesses who were there.
My interest is purely at the
level of Adolf Hitler, whose biography
I wrote; from my interviews and Allied
interrogations of his staff and other sources it is
evident in my view -- though Judge Gray
differently in the Lipstadt Trial -- that
Hitler was largely "out of the loop," as it would
now be said.
Thus the comfortable notion that
Jews were the victim of one madman who killed
himself in April 1945 is wrong.
I say that the Poles themselves
in 1995 that the Auschwitz
gas chamber building they show the tourists was
built in 1948, three years after the war ended; yet
I was fined $30,000 by the Germans for saying
precisely those words in 1990 -- from which
"conviction" all the legal problems have
As for the figures, I am entitled
to be skeptical too: The Polish court which
condemned the 22 leading officers of Auschwitz
found that "altogether nearly 300,000 people
from the most different nations died in the
Auschwitz concentration camp." Not four million and
not 1.5 million. Died, not were killed. The
of that judgment is on my website.
No wonder a certain New Zealand
community does not want me answering questions on
this -- not that it was to be the topic of my
The interview lasts about 15
minutes, and it wobbles rather aimlessly, like my
back wheel on my bike once the air went
newsreel (Wochenschau) of
the Dec 1947 judgment in the Polish (Krakau) trial
of the Auschwitz defendants, released Jan 8, 1948:
"Altogether nearly 300,000 people from the most
different nations died in the Auschwitz
concentration camp." Text
and translation |